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		<title>Comment on What Should the Next-Generation Open-Wheel Race Car Look Like? by Tim Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.hvmracing.com/hvmblog/?p=26#comment-288</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve really enjoyed reading everyone&#039;s opinions on the future Indy Car. My thought is to just take the Panoz Champ Car chassis and give it a little makeover. So that&#039;s what I did. 

I kept the tub basically the same but lengthened the nose to accommodate the tapered front wing, sloped the side pods down from the cockpit (similar to the Honda Indy concept), made the engine area smaller to accommodate a 4 cyl. turbo, and incorporate the rear wing into the bodywork and side pods.

It would be great to see several chassis and engine manufacturers competing again in the Indy Car Series. 

-Tim


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve really enjoyed reading everyone&#8217;s opinions on the future Indy Car. My thought is to just take the Panoz Champ Car chassis and give it a little makeover. So that&#8217;s what I did. </p>
<p>I kept the tub basically the same but lengthened the nose to accommodate the tapered front wing, sloped the side pods down from the cockpit (similar to the Honda Indy concept), made the engine area smaller to accommodate a 4 cyl. turbo, and incorporate the rear wing into the bodywork and side pods.</p>
<p>It would be great to see several chassis and engine manufacturers competing again in the Indy Car Series. </p>
<p>-Tim</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Should the Next-Generation Open-Wheel Race Car Look Like? by Cor Steenstra</title>
		<link>http://www.hvmracing.com/hvmblog/?p=26#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>Cor Steenstra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Rick about the main characteristics, which is what I integrated in the design as well. I am attaching a few more images of it, hopefully proving the point.

In the chrome example I am suggesting trying to get Apple as a sponsor, clearly moving the audience away from WalMart to the Target and higher category. NASCAR is WalMart and Indy is much more sophisticated than that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Rick about the main characteristics, which is what I integrated in the design as well. I am attaching a few more images of it, hopefully proving the point.</p>
<p>In the chrome example I am suggesting trying to get Apple as a sponsor, clearly moving the audience away from WalMart to the Target and higher category. NASCAR is WalMart and Indy is much more sophisticated than that.<br />
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		<title>Comment on What Should the Next-Generation Open-Wheel Race Car Look Like? by Rick Mather</title>
		<link>http://www.hvmracing.com/hvmblog/?p=26#comment-286</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Mather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IRL are superb in requesting new designs for an Indycar. ( Well done and I guarantee there will be more race fans because of this. )

After watching F1 for 45 years ( Crap overtaking ) and being a lover of IRL and NASCAR – The design I believe would best be suited to the IRL requirements is the BAT design – Only because their design is as close to the following requirements whereas other designs are not as extensive ( rear section ) – I believe the following are ranked in the most import things to provide a package which would provide the best racing – 
-	Mandatory rear section behind rear wheels to provide the very best air flow to the following car.
-	Mandatory Height specified front wing to work with rear section of car in front.
-	More dependency on Rear Wing ( Maybe higher ) designed to provide down force as opposed to under car aerodynamics. ( under car aero screws up following car ) ( More mechanical grip needed therefore drivers can more happily oversteer on non oval circuits ) 
-	Slightly higher seating position will definitely help but shouldn’t make a vast change to the racing. ( My belief ) 
-	Also Mandatory single make with Shark Fin ( extra area for sponsors ) ( all cars provide same air flow to following cars therefore nobody disadvantaged ) 
-	Only engine / front wing / rear wing / wheels / tyres / suspension setup can be changed but basic car stays same so allowing following car the best aerodynamics.

Good Luck

Rick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IRL are superb in requesting new designs for an Indycar. ( Well done and I guarantee there will be more race fans because of this. )</p>
<p>After watching F1 for 45 years ( Crap overtaking ) and being a lover of IRL and NASCAR – The design I believe would best be suited to the IRL requirements is the BAT design – Only because their design is as close to the following requirements whereas other designs are not as extensive ( rear section ) – I believe the following are ranked in the most import things to provide a package which would provide the best racing –<br />
-	Mandatory rear section behind rear wheels to provide the very best air flow to the following car.<br />
-	Mandatory Height specified front wing to work with rear section of car in front.<br />
-	More dependency on Rear Wing ( Maybe higher ) designed to provide down force as opposed to under car aerodynamics. ( under car aero screws up following car ) ( More mechanical grip needed therefore drivers can more happily oversteer on non oval circuits )<br />
-	Slightly higher seating position will definitely help but shouldn’t make a vast change to the racing. ( My belief )<br />
-	Also Mandatory single make with Shark Fin ( extra area for sponsors ) ( all cars provide same air flow to following cars therefore nobody disadvantaged )<br />
-	Only engine / front wing / rear wing / wheels / tyres / suspension setup can be changed but basic car stays same so allowing following car the best aerodynamics.</p>
<p>Good Luck</p>
<p>Rick</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Should the Next-Generation Open-Wheel Race Car Look Like? by Cor Steenstra</title>
		<link>http://www.hvmracing.com/hvmblog/?p=26#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>Cor Steenstra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a design based on the premise that the IRL wants close racing, preferably like the bumper to bumper racing in NASCAR. This design incorporates a double decker front area, where the lower section is a match to the lower rear section on the opponents car. This will allow for very close racing without upsetting basic aerodynamics.

Of course the car can be executed in the same expensive carbon fiber as the current cars, a cheap version of Formula 1, but if the IRL is serious about cost cutting, it could be interesting to try and built this car using a tubular chassis similar to what again NASCAR is using, but then of course narrower, single seater and with a mid engine layout.

Ideally the IRL would then use engines from the same OEM corporations now in NASCAR, with very close monitoring engine output etc., so that it will become a multiple make series, with identical chassis, very limited tolerances in body design, and true competition.

Indy Racing is not and never was Formula 1. It should not try to be like F1, but offer the passion and character of racing its US audience desires.

[img]http://www.hvmracing.com/hvmblog/wp-content/upload/Indy 007_0011.jpg[/img]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a design based on the premise that the IRL wants close racing, preferably like the bumper to bumper racing in NASCAR. This design incorporates a double decker front area, where the lower section is a match to the lower rear section on the opponents car. This will allow for very close racing without upsetting basic aerodynamics.</p>
<p>Of course the car can be executed in the same expensive carbon fiber as the current cars, a cheap version of Formula 1, but if the IRL is serious about cost cutting, it could be interesting to try and built this car using a tubular chassis similar to what again NASCAR is using, but then of course narrower, single seater and with a mid engine layout.</p>
<p>Ideally the IRL would then use engines from the same OEM corporations now in NASCAR, with very close monitoring engine output etc., so that it will become a multiple make series, with identical chassis, very limited tolerances in body design, and true competition.</p>
<p>Indy Racing is not and never was Formula 1. It should not try to be like F1, but offer the passion and character of racing its US audience desires.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hvmracing.com/hvmblog/wp-content/upload/Indy 007_0011.jpg" rel="lightbox[comments]"> <img src="http://www.hvmracing.com/hvmblog/wp-content/upload/Indy 007_0011.jpg" style="max-height: 250px; max-width: 360px; padding: 5px 0 5px 0" alt="Indy 007_0011.jpg" /></a><br />
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		<title>Comment on So Now What Do You Think? by JayInAtlanta</title>
		<link>http://www.hvmracing.com/hvmblog/?p=83#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator>JayInAtlanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Delta Wing is a horrific idea for open wheel racing, and probably for anything.  I DON&#039;T CARE how good the smokescreen science is behind it: it&#039;s an abomination and it will drive off the vast majority of the very small audience who cares about open wheel racing.  

As I&#039;ve said bluntly in other discussions, IndyCar already has the market on a formula that looks like sh*t.  The fact that some group of IndyCar owners now want something that actually makes the Dallara look good is frightening beyond belief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Delta Wing is a horrific idea for open wheel racing, and probably for anything.  I DON&#8217;T CARE how good the smokescreen science is behind it: it&#8217;s an abomination and it will drive off the vast majority of the very small audience who cares about open wheel racing.  </p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said bluntly in other discussions, IndyCar already has the market on a formula that looks like sh*t.  The fact that some group of IndyCar owners now want something that actually makes the Dallara look good is frightening beyond belief.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Keep the Submissions Coming – They Mean More than You Might Think! by boffin5</title>
		<link>http://www.hvmracing.com/hvmblog/?p=35#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>boffin5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is an image with my ideas.
[img]http://www.hvmracing.com/hvmblog/wp-content/upload/new-irl.JPG[/img]
The official ptroposals are interesting, but the Deltawing, if built, would be an oversteering nightmare.
What they really should do, is build all of the proposals in equal numbers, and just let them go race!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an image with my ideas.<br />
<a href="http://www.hvmracing.com/hvmblog/wp-content/upload/new-irl.JPG" rel="lightbox[comments]"> <img src="http://www.hvmracing.com/hvmblog/wp-content/upload/new-irl.JPG" style="max-height: 250px; max-width: 360px; padding: 5px 0 5px 0" alt="new-irl.JPG" /></a><br />
The official ptroposals are interesting, but the Deltawing, if built, would be an oversteering nightmare.<br />
What they really should do, is build all of the proposals in equal numbers, and just let them go race!</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Should the Next-Generation Open-Wheel Race Car Look Like? by H.F.Blok</title>
		<link>http://www.hvmracing.com/hvmblog/?p=26#comment-278</link>
		<dc:creator>H.F.Blok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[img]http://www.hvmracing.com/hvmblog/wp-content/upload/112114.jpg[/img]

Maybe the A1GP cars, there are a lot for sale now.
Robert nows a lot about them.</description>
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<p>Maybe the A1GP cars, there are a lot for sale now.<br />
Robert nows a lot about them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Should the Next-Generation Open-Wheel Race Car Look Like? by Bob Herbst</title>
		<link>http://www.hvmracing.com/hvmblog/?p=26#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Herbst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should look like a DP01, plain and simple.</description>
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		<title>Comment on So Now What Do You Think? by davemb</title>
		<link>http://www.hvmracing.com/hvmblog/?p=83#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator>davemb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the Swift #32.  It looks wicked fast.  I find the Swift #33 too cartoonish, the other fall significantly further down my list.  The Delta Wing - I just can see it as a race car, I&#039;m an engineer and appreciate the obvious efficiencies in its design but, it does not look like its ready to do battle.  FWIW - my 12 year old son ranks DeltaWing first and Swift #32 second amoung all the chassis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the Swift #32.  It looks wicked fast.  I find the Swift #33 too cartoonish, the other fall significantly further down my list.  The Delta Wing &#8211; I just can see it as a race car, I&#8217;m an engineer and appreciate the obvious efficiencies in its design but, it does not look like its ready to do battle.  FWIW &#8211; my 12 year old son ranks DeltaWing first and Swift #32 second amoung all the chassis</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Should the Next-Generation Open-Wheel Race Car Look Like? by Affectionate_beauty</title>
		<link>http://www.hvmracing.com/hvmblog/?p=26#comment-272</link>
		<dc:creator>Affectionate_beauty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion you stole this article and placed on another site. I had already seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion you stole this article and placed on another site. I had already seen.</p>
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